Service & user manual- and any info about Piaggio Ape Poker

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Drewniany
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Service & user manual- and any info about Piaggio Ape Poker

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Hello, I just purchased a Ape Poker (422 cc benzin, 1991) which I'll be restoring.
Need some help to find a workshop manual and user manual in English if anyone has one, spare parts catalogue will be also welcome. Or Italian if nothing else.

Also I am looking for some spare parts for this bike/car - even I do not know how to call it ;)

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hi, are you sure your poker is a 422 petrol engine?
i thouht that that size was the lombardini diesel...
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For sure is petrol engine. On registration document is written 422 cc.

This is mine (auction from i bought it):
http://www.allegro.pl/item755181024_piaggo_poker.html

but, You can find very similiar in Italy:
http://www.autoinweb.it/auto/display_li ... _Ape.html/

I had hope that in Italy this construction is more popular, and that i will find someone who can help me...
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when you look at the engine there should be some type of marking/logo
probably the drive unit is daihatsu or lombardini.
i will ask around to see if someone knows more about it.
it may take a few days so do not worry.
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Thanks a lot. I will wait for answer. Today afternoon i will look for some marking on engine.

Biggest issue I have right now is gear box (5 gear front, 1 reverse). It is very difficult to switch between gears, sometimes gear are locking and it difficult to turn off gear.
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here we go:
i was told the engine is the old cuore engine from daihatsu
this engine is well known to me as i had the 55wide van version (547 cc)
this engine is also used in the thai tuk-tuk.
the gearbox : when you have rear wheel drive its a box like the minivan.
when frontwheel drive it ought to be the cuore one.
your trouble with the gears is either bad adgiustment between the lever on the box and the one inside or (more probable) a worn clutch assembly.
rebuilding is very easy but getting a head gasket might be difficult.......the rest is pretty standard.
my van did 220.000 km and went to the scrap because i could not get the head gasket in italy (i did not know about the poker then)
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Good to read any news. Thank You.

I have rear wheel drive. Is it possible to have any manaul and/or drawings for this construction?
Maybe there is any other name for Ape Poker which I can use as keywords?
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You might try this link but I've never used it before so I don't know if it's trustworthy. Ken - http://pdfdatabase.com/index.php?q=piag ... l+download
we buy/restore/sell P501 and P601s and parts/manuals/handbooks
http://www.kjjohnson.ca/
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Thank You kjjohnson - I tried but it seems to be fakes. On sponsored links are always 4 links exactly as You ask search engine - on other links there is no my ape poker.

Is it mean that I bought very rare construction? I thought that in Italy Piaggio Ape Poker is everywhere ;)
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the poker never became the "new ape"
the reasons are easy: the generation that had no car license was almost gone.
now there is the piaggio porter...........also daihatsu...
make some pics of your poker,,,engine transmission chassis etc...........
do you happen to understand german?
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olandese volante ha scritto:the reasons are easy: the generation that had no car license was almost gone.[...]
This was main reason to buy this construction. I bought it for my father. He is from this generaration - 71 years old, and has no car license.
olandese volante ha scritto:[...]make some pics of your poker,,,engine transmission chassis etc...........[...]
Tomorrow I will try make some photos.
olandese volante ha scritto:[...]do you happen to understand german?
My german knowlegde is pretty poor, but if will be possible to have some interesting materials in german I will have no problem to translate it.
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I am looking for levier of reduction gear. Photo is attached:

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is it possible to buy new in Italy? Maybe this system was used in other "car" - does someone know somethong about it?

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